Thanks, for trying I will look at it but I am new to trying to pass on the info in proper mac terms, not totally new to mac or computers. I do know about the red button which closes my trash bin. When I download a file, I open finder in the dock to retrieve my download, when I open downloads from finder in the dock, it immediately closes itself. And the trash folder opens itself. When I go to finder and click on download folder then to file and click open file it also closes.