VLC Media Player crashes with .avi files

Discussion in 'Video Hardware' started by SparkyGuy, Jun 26, 2009.

  1. Apple is a religion! They are the Jehovah Witnesses among
    computer-owners ;-)

    Martin Heffels, Jun 28, 2009
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  2. I don't buy it, because it breaks down very quickly. Their hardware
    might be better if they had a good QA, but that seems to be far
    absent. So after a owning a few Apple products which broke down too
    soon, no more Apple for me.


    Martin Heffels, Jun 28, 2009
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  3. Well that's your luck for having a not so popular product ;-)

    Martin Heffels, Jun 28, 2009
  4. People who bought Vista are idiots, because the warning signs have
    been out there since it's introduction.
    That's right. And because Apple is monpolized, you won't really see
    that on Apple computers.

    Odd. I had the same in reverse :)

    Martin Heffels, Jun 28, 2009
  5. Indeed. There exist Apple fanboys/fanatics - just like there exist
    Windows ones. And there exist people who just use or prefer them without
    being fanatics. There even exist people who use both, and for that
    matter, other systems.

    One completely sure way to identify a religious fanatic in the crowd:
    When you see someone hijack an unrelated thread to start spewing Mac
    versus Windows flames, and when that someone claims that anyone who uses
    a Mac is inherently a fanboy and religious fanatic (and presumably
    damned to eternal flames because of being the wrong religion)... Then
    you can tell for sure that the someone in question is a fanboy and
    religious fanatic.

    Probably also insecure about his own choices and feeling the need to
    flame others as a cover for his insecurity; there are professionals who
    can help one deal with that kind of problem. :)
    Richard Maine, Jun 28, 2009
  6. SparkyGuy

    J.J. O'Shea Guest

    Even when Macs had viruses, they didn't have a/v products which could crash
    the whole computer. (A/v products which could eat all your incoming email,
    yes; crash the computer, no.)

    And, if anyone is interested, CA tech non-support said that the problem was
    because of a conflict with another a/v product. They were unable to explain
    how this would work given that the other a/v product was not installed until
    _after_ CA ISS had been removed.

    It also seems that Macs are not supported by CA ISS. As a test, I'd put CA
    ISS on a Boot Camp partition, running Vista. It seems that the mere fact that
    this was a <gasp! shock! horror!> Mac </gasp! shock! horror!> would be enough
    to ensure that CA ISS wouldn't work properly. The fact that it exhibited the
    exact same behavior on the Mac as on the WinBox was, to them, beside the

    CA ISS is now removed from all my systems. AVG rulez! And it's _free_, too!
    J.J. O'Shea, Jun 28, 2009
  7. Yeah, the nukes etc, that was a scary period. Not to mention everyone
    strating to dress like Michael Jackson and doing "Bad" impersonations
    in the dead dark of the night.
    But if you were referring to my experiences with Apple, they are from
    this century.

    Martin Heffels, Jun 28, 2009
  8. It has been discussed a million times over: Macs have a very limited
    variety in hardware, so writing software should be easier.
    CA is rubbish. No PC-user told you that? :)
    Nah, not the Mac's fault perse. You said you ran it on Vista. That
    should give you to think as well ;-)
    Good choice. I got NOD32 and am very pleased about that.


    Martin Heffels, Jun 28, 2009
  9. And my experience is exactly the opposit. So, your point is?
    You should get good techies at your company who can manage their
    systems properly.

    Martin Heffels, Jun 28, 2009
  10. SparkyGuy

    J.J. O'Shea Guest

    I have, right in this room, the following machines:

    Apple Power Macintosh G3 (beige), from 1998. That machine is 11 years old.
    Still works.

    Apple eMac 700, from 2002.

    Apple eMac 1.25, from 2004.

    Apple iMac G5, from 2006.

    Apple iMac Core 2 Duo, from 2008. (Some people may be able to note a trend

    All still operational, including the eMac 700, now 7 years old.

    Dell Dimension 4550, from 2003

    Dell Optiplex GX270, from 2004

    a home-built unit, based on a Pentium 4, from 2005

    HP Pavilion a705, from 2006

    Toshiba Satellite laptop, from 2008

    The Dimension is non-operational, being used for scrap. The Optiplex is out
    of action due to a dead hard drive. (Gee, it's a Dell, it's got a dead drive,
    what a surprise.) The hand-built machine is still operational, but is
    noticeably (as in, noticed by my 76-year-old mother, which is why I've got it
    to try to tune it up a little) slower than the eMac 700... despite the eMac
    700 having a 700 MHz CPU and only 2 GB RAM to the hand-built's 2.8 GHz unit
    and 3 GB RAM. Indeed, the eMac 1.25, despite being five years old, delivers
    better performance than the Toshiba, less than one year old. (Except for the
    portability factor, that is; the eMac weighs a lot.)

    There would be a two-year-old HP in here, too, except that I gave that to my
    mother while I play with her machine. She wanted the eMac, but took the HP
    because certain applications won't work on the eMac, it's PowerPC and so
    can't boot Windows except using Virtual PC, and that's beyond dog-slow. later
    today she's going down to the Apple store with the intention of getting a Mac
    mini or a iMac. I told her that Apple is supposed to be cutting prices come
    July, but she wants a machine _now_ and she ain't buying no damn WinBoxes
    again. I might get her to hold off a bit and give her my iMac Intel and get a
    new one when Apple cuts prices, if they do, but she's pretty damn pissed
    about WinBox behavior right now. (Yes, hers was the machine that had CA ISS
    on it. CA non-support not only cost CA a customer, they cost Windows a

    In any case, m'man, keep on believing that people use Macs 'cause they don't
    know Windows. In my experience, people use Macs precisely because of negative
    experiences with Windows...
    J.J. O'Shea, Jun 28, 2009
  11. That's not what I am on about. Mac users tend to defend their choice
    viciously, while Windows users just think "what the heck, it's a
    computer, it's working fine, so why all the fuzz".
    Have you ever seen the queues in front of Apple stores when they open
    a new shop, or launch a new product? It's insane :) Is it that
    difficult to wait for a few days to lay your hands on a new iPhone?


    Martin Heffels, Jun 28, 2009
  12. SparkyGuy

    J.J. O'Shea Guest

    It was on my mother's machine. I was just trying to get it running for her.
    Vista's not that bad. It's got a way to go before it hits rock-bottom:
    Windows ME!
    AVG is what I usually use.
    J.J. O'Shea, Jun 28, 2009
  13. Ah yes, nice try trying to single out me ;-) I use both PC & Mac on a
    regular basis. I am a freelance editor, so it's my best choice to be
    able to use both systems. But because Final Cut Pro tries to cram so
    much stuff in one package, it's so gawd-darned slow, that when I go
    back to my trusted Avid-system, I have the feeling that someone in the
    mean time secretly upgraded my computer to a Cray XT5.
    For myself I have the authority to make a decision on which of both
    worlds I like best, based on using Mac's since 1986 and Windows PC's
    since 1987 :) Of course you would not agree with the comments of a
    few in r.v.desktop, but we speak from personal experiences of
    heavy-duty use of both platforms, so maybe you should take that into


    Martin Heffels, Jun 28, 2009
  14. Let me guess - you have no life and can't stand that some other people
    don't make the same choices you do, and you attack them in a desperate
    need to validate your own choices. God - how pathetic.

    *plonks the thread*
    Jamie Kahn Genet, Jun 28, 2009
  15. It's up next in the rankings from ME ;-)

    Martin Heffels, Jun 28, 2009
  16. And so is mine. The grand conclusion is: both platforms suck.
    The more eye-candy they will put into it, the more sluggish it will
    become. And you have a generation of slack programmers who write
    not-so efficient code (read: resource consuming).
    That's bad of those guys. They should be kicked out of their jobs.

    Martin Heffels, Jun 28, 2009
  17. Uhm, who is Ned? I am missing the point.....
    That they want to have the coolest gizmo first in their hands? I don't
    get the excitement.

    Martin Heffels, Jun 28, 2009
  18. Yep, that's a flame. Indeed, all it took to hijack the thread into a
    flamefest was to post a flame.
    1. Macs aren't totally crash free. Anyone who claims otherwise is an
    idiot. Idiots do exist.

    2. The behavior in question was not, however, such a crash. The Mac did
    not crash; the application did.

    3. Go into any group and post a random flame about the subject of that
    group. You'll get hostile reaction. This is not exactly Mac specific. Go
    try the same on a Windows group. Or, heck, go try it on rec.pets.cats.
    Actually, no, don't. Posting flames is obnoxious.
    Among your other incorrect assumptions is that I have ever taken a psych
    course. I was an engineering major and avoided that kind of stuff as far
    as I could, which turned out to be pretty far.

    I then spent my career using far more different operating systems than
    you probably even knew ever existed. It would take me a while to even
    count, but it is certainly in the dozens - several dozens if one wants
    to make version distinctions such as between Windows 1, 2, 3.0, 3.1, 95,
    98, ME, NT, 2000, XP, all of which I have used. I was using computers
    for about a decade before either Microsoft or Apple were even founded.
    I'm pretty new to Macs in that I couldn't stand them prior to OS X. Yes,
    I tried them; didn't like them. The Unix base of OS X brought me in for
    another try. I currently have Mac, Windows, and Linux boxes in this room
    (my home library). I've used both the Mac and Windows today. The Windows
    I used was running in VMWare on the Mac, but I've got some other Windows
    boxes as well. I don't use the Linux ones much any more because OS X
    handles the Unix stuff I use. My old Apple 2e is in another room (the
    overflow library :)) kept as a keepsake.

    I suppose that having someone who currently (yes, I could change again)
    likes Macs say that he couldn't stand some of them isn't likely to upset
    your prejudices about Mac users.
    Richard Maine, Jun 28, 2009
  19. SparkyGuy

    John Varela Guest

    You're not running Norton Antivirus on your Macs, are you?
    John Varela, Jun 28, 2009
  20. SparkyGuy

    John Varela Guest

    Did you see the hype and hysteria over that wrapper around DOS, Win
    John Varela, Jun 28, 2009
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