Previous Shutdown Cause: 3

Discussion in 'Mac' started by Nick Naym, Feb 18, 2009.

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    Nick Naym Guest

    I manually put my iMac to sleep before going to sleep myself last night.
    It's set to do so automatically, but I kept it awake for quite a while, as I
    was busy doing work. It's also set to wake up at about 8:30 in the morning.

    Today I discovered that the iMac was off...somehow, it shut down. There was
    no overnight power outage (clocks still working, no power-failure
    indications on other appliances). I restarted via the power switch (at 10:12

    After the machine booted, it created a log entry regarding the shutdown:

    Feb 18 10:12:11 localhost kernel[0]: Previous Shutdown Cause: 3

    FWIW, later, when my next scheduled TM backup kicked in, it took quite a
    while for it to complete its backup. Apparently, there was a need to do a
    "deep traversal":

    Feb 18 12:05:06 nicks-imac /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[1814]: Node
    requires deep traversal:/

    Any idea what this means?
    Nick Naym, Feb 18, 2009
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    Nick Naym Guest

    I Googled it as well, but the nature of the causes suggested in the various
    forums seemed to be all over the place, depending on the specifics of the
    situation of each of the OPs. I was hoping that someone here might be able
    to suggest some specifics (perhaps based on the "Untrustable" log entry).
    Nick Naym, Feb 19, 2009
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    Nick Naym Guest


    Mike, I really like you a lot!

    FWIW, I got AppleCare a couple of days ago (something I had always intended
    to do before my year was over), at less than half the retail cost (got it on
    eBay). It took several days for Apple to "officially" complete the online
    registration process. That just happened.

    I will be calling the phone-support line as well as my local Apple store. My
    only reluctance _at this point in time_ is simply a need to avoid (if at all
    possible) bringing the Mac in to the store and leaving it for repairs, as I
    currently need to have Internet access and the ability to
    access/send/receive documents (there are critical economic/financial issues
    involved). I'm somewhat caught between a rock and a hard place, as the
    longer I postpone bringing it in, the greater the possibility there's an
    undiagnosed hardware problem that will rear its ugly head and prevent me
    from having the Internet and document access I'm trying to avoid losing in
    the first place.
    Nick Naym, Feb 20, 2009
  4. It's quite something for an outsider to see people who, after being
    completely ripped off buying a Mac, are ROLLING ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING OUT
    *LOUD* because, less than a year later, they have to shell you yet more
    money because the damned thingie has gone haywire.

    I, personally, have a computer whose youngest part are more than 7 years
    old, the oldest more than double that and, only now, would I be ROTFLOL if
    it broke. I never took a warranty and I doubt anybody would offer one now.
    (The HDs have been rolling 12 hours a day for the last 10 years,

    I really wonder how come Jolly's servers have been rolling on his floor for
    the last 20 years without the slightest problem. If I didn't know a
    plethora of people who had one hardware problem after another with Macs in
    these good old days, I'd say Macs are not build like they used to. But,
    indeed, they are.

    Mac Morons are really quite an achievement in brainwashing. I don't believe
    Goebbels could imagine such a perfect technique would ever exist.
    Marcel Pagnol, Feb 20, 2009
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    Alex.Wimpee New Member

    Dec 7, 2016
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    Here we have a real world example of the long term cost of upkeep on a Mac versus a PC. IBM, a reputable leading electronics company, has found that it is cheaper to own and maintain a mac as compared to a pc. It's true that all a Mac consists of is essentially pre-specced components, specially engineered Motherboard and a fancy OS so technically it's pretty much the same thing. But as far as "Mac Morons" "Brainwashing" and macs being ripoffs, I have to disagree with that and i'm sure many other people feel the same way. That's great you got a reliable rig, I have a killer pc rig that i've had for 7 years as well and it plays star citizen great I also have a macbook air that I haven't had to repair in 4 years along with a mac mini I've had since 2010. My Macs have required literally no maintenance where as my PC has required a good amount of maintenance throughout the years but that's just my experience. I couldn't work without either of my machines. I love it when people fail to do their research. I use all types of machines because I feel that they hall have their own purpose.
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    Alex.Wimpee, Dec 7, 2016
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