Microsoft Remote Desktop vs 2 - shift key weirdness

Discussion in 'UK Macs' started by jim, Jul 24, 2008.

  1. jim

    jim Guest

    Anyone else using RDC v 2 ? If so, do you find that it doesn't reliably
    send shift-key status?

    Trying to type "A$" quite often results in "A4".

    Reverted to v1.0.3 and so far so good.

    Jim
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    jim, Jul 24, 2008
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  2. jim

    jim Guest

    Paul Russell <> wrote:

    > jim wrote:
    > > Anyone else using RDC v 2 ? If so, do you find that it doesn't reliably
    > > send shift-key status?
    > >
    > > Trying to type "A$" quite often results in "A4".
    > >
    > > Reverted to v1.0.3 and so far so good.
    > >
    > > Jim

    >
    > I've been using it for a couple of weeks and haven't seen this
    > particular problem. It does seem to need a quit and a re-launch from
    > time to time.
    >
    > To give credit where it's due, scrolling of text windows is now much better.


    The only odd thing I was doing was RDC'ing to the work server, then
    RDC'ing from it to another machine. I wonder if v2 doesn't cope well in
    'nested' RDC environments.

    Using v1 seems fine.

    Jim
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    jim, Jul 24, 2008
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  3. On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:54:11 +0100, (jim)
    wrote:

    >Anyone else using RDC v 2 ? If so, do you find that it doesn't reliably
    >send shift-key status?
    >
    >Trying to type "A$" quite often results in "A4".


    I've had that, no shift key affect at all. Went back to VNC.

    Cheers - Jaimie
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    Never sleep with anyone crazier than you are.
     
    Jaimie Vandenbergh, Jul 24, 2008
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  4. jim

    jim Guest

    Jaimie Vandenbergh <> wrote:

    > On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:54:11 +0100, (jim)
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Anyone else using RDC v 2 ? If so, do you find that it doesn't reliably
    > >send shift-key status?
    > >
    > >Trying to type "A$" quite often results in "A4".

    >
    > I've had that, no shift key affect at all. Went back to VNC.


    FWIW this was RDC'ing to a Windows 2000 server, then from it to an XP
    box.

    I haven't tested whether the shift-key oddity was there if I was only on
    the W2K machine.

    Jim
    --
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    jim, Jul 24, 2008
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  5. On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:21:33 +0100, (jim)
    wrote:

    >Jaimie Vandenbergh <> wrote:
    >
    >> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:54:11 +0100, (jim)
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >> >Anyone else using RDC v 2 ? If so, do you find that it doesn't reliably
    >> >send shift-key status?
    >> >
    >> >Trying to type "A$" quite often results in "A4".

    >>
    >> I've had that, no shift key affect at all. Went back to VNC.

    >
    >FWIW this was RDC'ing to a Windows 2000 server, then from it to an XP
    >box.
    >
    >I haven't tested whether the shift-key oddity was there if I was only on
    >the W2K machine.


    That reminds me that I've had the same problem using Apple's Screen
    Sharing (ie VNC) to a Mac in order to poke an XP running in Parallels.
    Shift state wasn't transferred to the XP vm.

    Totally different route, same result. Curious.

    Cheers - Jaimie
    --
    "First they came for the verbs, and I said nothing because verbing weirds
    language. Then they arrival for the nouns, and I speech nothing because
    I no verbs." - Quoted by Peter Ellis, afp
     
    Jaimie Vandenbergh, Jul 24, 2008
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  6. jim

    jim Guest

    Jaimie Vandenbergh <> wrote:

    > On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:21:33 +0100, (jim)
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Jaimie Vandenbergh <> wrote:
    > >
    > >> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:54:11 +0100, (jim)
    > >> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >Anyone else using RDC v 2 ? If so, do you find that it doesn't reliably
    > >> >send shift-key status?
    > >> >
    > >> >Trying to type "A$" quite often results in "A4".
    > >>
    > >> I've had that, no shift key affect at all. Went back to VNC.

    > >
    > >FWIW this was RDC'ing to a Windows 2000 server, then from it to an XP
    > >box.
    > >
    > >I haven't tested whether the shift-key oddity was there if I was only on
    > >the W2K machine.

    >
    > That reminds me that I've had the same problem using Apple's Screen
    > Sharing (ie VNC) to a Mac in order to poke an XP running in Parallels.
    > Shift state wasn't transferred to the XP vm.
    >
    > Totally different route, same result. Curious.


    Fixed it. It wasn't affecting a connection just to the W2K machine, so
    it was something to do with the hop from there to the XP machine.

    On the W2K machine I changed RDC's Options->Local Resources->Keyboard to
    'On the local computer'

    This _seems_ to have fixed it.

    So not actually a Mac problem after all, but might be useful to someone.

    Jim
    --
    "Well, well. We've come a long way from the Prime Minister's
    exploding cake." - Adam West, Batman.

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    jim, Jul 24, 2008
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    Jon B Guest

    jim <> wrote:

    > Anyone else using RDC v 2 ? If so, do you find that it doesn't reliably
    > send shift-key status?
    >
    > Trying to type "A$" quite often results in "A4".
    >
    > Reverted to v1.0.3 and so far so good.
    >

    I could never replicate it in an excel sheet, but I reliably couldn't
    get the case sensitive password right in our BACS banking software using
    the v2 beta, and guessed as it worked fine in v1.x something wasn't
    right in v2, I reverted back too.

    I'd not tried this release, probably for the best.
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    Jon B, Jul 24, 2008
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    Rob Guest

    jim wrote:
    > Anyone else using RDC v 2 ? If so, do you find that it doesn't reliably
    > send shift-key status?
    >
    > Trying to type "A$" quite often results in "A4".
    >
    > Reverted to v1.0.3 and so far so good.
    >
    > Jim


    Works perfectly fine in a sluggish sort of way with work's Windows 2003
    server, and an iMac/Leopard.

    Rob
     
    Rob, Jul 24, 2008
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  9. jim

    jim Guest

    Rob <> wrote:

    > jim wrote:
    > > Anyone else using RDC v 2 ? If so, do you find that it doesn't reliably
    > > send shift-key status?
    > >
    > > Trying to type "A$" quite often results in "A4".
    > >
    > > Reverted to v1.0.3 and so far so good.
    > >
    > > Jim

    >
    > Works perfectly fine in a sluggish sort of way with work's Windows 2003
    > server, and an iMac/Leopard.



    Yes, the problem turned out to be with the RDC client on the W2K machine
    - looks like it wasn't consistently passing on modifier values until a
    setting was tweaked.

    Jim
    --
    "Well, well. We've come a long way from the Prime Minister's
    exploding cake." - Adam West, Batman.

    http://www.UrsaMinorBeta.co.uk http://twitter.com/GreyAreaUK
     
    jim, Jul 24, 2008
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    Jon B Guest

    jim <> wrote:

    > Rob <> wrote:
    >
    > > jim wrote:
    > > > Anyone else using RDC v 2 ? If so, do you find that it doesn't reliably
    > > > send shift-key status?
    > > >
    > > > Trying to type "A$" quite often results in "A4".
    > > >
    > > > Reverted to v1.0.3 and so far so good.
    > > >
    > > > Jim

    > >
    > > Works perfectly fine in a sluggish sort of way with work's Windows 2003
    > > server, and an iMac/Leopard.

    >
    >
    > Yes, the problem turned out to be with the RDC client on the W2K machine
    > - looks like it wasn't consistently passing on modifier values until a
    > setting was tweaked.
    >

    Which setting was that, be useful to tweak ours.
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    Jon B, Jul 24, 2008
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    jim Guest

    Jon B <> wrote:

    > > Yes, the problem turned out to be with the RDC client on the W2K machine
    > > - looks like it wasn't consistently passing on modifier values until a
    > > setting was tweaked.
    > >

    > Which setting was that, be useful to tweak ours.


    On the W2K machine I changed RDC's Options->Local Resources->Keyboard to
    'On the local computer'

    Jim
    --
    "Well, well. We've come a long way from the Prime Minister's
    exploding cake." - Adam West, Batman.

    http://www.UrsaMinorBeta.co.uk http://twitter.com/GreyAreaUK
     
    jim, Jul 24, 2008
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  12. jim

    Jon B Guest

    jim <> wrote:

    > Jon B <> wrote:
    >
    > > > Yes, the problem turned out to be with the RDC client on the W2K machine
    > > > - looks like it wasn't consistently passing on modifier values until a
    > > > setting was tweaked.
    > > >

    > > Which setting was that, be useful to tweak ours.

    >
    > On the W2K machine I changed RDC's Options->Local Resources->Keyboard to
    > 'On the local computer'
    >
    > Jim


    Thanks will look into that later.
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    Jon B, Jul 24, 2008
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    Nick Bell Guest

    jim wrote:
    > Anyone else using RDC v 2 ? If so, do you find that it doesn't reliably
    > send shift-key status?
    >
    > Trying to type "A$" quite often results in "A4".
    >
    > Reverted to v1.0.3 and so far so good.
    >
    > Jim

    I sometimes find that CAPS LOCK status is completely reversed, i.e. if
    CL on, all lower case, and vv.

    Nick
     
    Nick Bell, Jul 25, 2008
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    I actually do something even wierder...I login to a mac from a mac. The mac I am logging into has configured Microsoft Remote Desktop to connect to a PC.

    I too was having this problem where the shift key was not working. I don't know but it may be that the response of the system is too slow or "breaks" the continuity of simultaneously holding the shift key down and pressing a key.

    What I did was hit the shift key 5 times in succession activating "Sticky Keys" (you may get a dialog the first time you do this). So now I am able to enter the shift+2 to get @ or shift+4 to get $.

    There maybe some control panel on the client you are connecting to that will allow it to wait longer for key repeats or something along those lines, but I haven't messed with this.

    Good luck.

    p.s.
    For awhile a work around I did was to setup Teamviewer. That works without all the shift key shenaniggans.
     
    shadowwraith, Oct 9, 2017
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