iSight adapater for tripods with threaded sled

Discussion in 'Video Hardware' started by Tim Murray, Mar 20, 2010.

  1. Tim Murray

    Alan Baker Guest

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    <>,
    ed <> wrote:

    > On Mar 21, 9:40 pm, Alan Baker <> wrote:
    > >  ed <> wrote:
    > > > On Mar 21, 9:21 pm, Alan Baker <> wrote:
    > > > >  ed <> wrote:
    > > > > > On Mar 21, 9:06 pm, Tim Murray <> wrote:
    > > > > > > ed wrote:
    > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 7:34 pm, Alan Baker <> wrote:
    > > > > > > >> Machines shops are where one goes to get 200 pieces of a metal
    > > > > > > >> piece
    > > > > > > >> made.

    > >
    > > > > > > > you've gone around in a nice circle, eh alan?

    > >
    > > > > > > Let me jump in here. I work many hours during the day and most
    > > > > > > weekends,
    > > > > > > and
    > > > > > > I bill by the hour and most of it is on a tight deadline; thus, I
    > > > > > > can't
    > > > > > > screw
    > > > > > > around with buying the equipment and raw material, then making the
    > > > > > > darned
    > > > > > > thing, for 200 of an under-six-dollar item. (I won't say how much I
    > > > > > > ended
    > > > > > > up
    > > > > > > paying per piece, but it was under $6.)  The money I'd lose in my
    > > > > > > regular
    > > > > > > work would dwarf the money I "saved" in doing myself.

    > >
    > > > > > understood, but not really what's really being debated at this
    > > > > > point.   it's just that alan doesn't know what he's talking about at
    > > > > > this point.  :p  i.e. it's just about good fun right now.  :D

    > >
    > > > > LOL

    > >
    > > > > I know that to make items in bulk, you go to people who are good at it.

    > >
    > > > well then, something else you apparently don't know- most machine
    > > > shops aren't really in the business of making parts in bulk.  ;D  most
    > > > of them generally do everything by hand, so by definition do one offs
    > > > or limited runs.  :p

    > >
    > > LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOL

    >
    > sorry alan, but it's true. have you ever had *any* work done at a
    > machine shop? if so, what? if not, maybe just admit you don't know
    > and bow out of the conversation gracefully, eh? :p


    Are there machine shops that will do one-off work? Of course.

    Declaring what "most" do with the kind of certainty you just tried?

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOL

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    Alan Baker, Mar 22, 2010
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  2. Tim Murray

    ed Guest

    On Mar 21, 10:39 pm, Alan Baker <> wrote:
    >  ed <> wrote:
    > > On Mar 21, 9:39 pm, Alan Baker <> wrote:
    > > > ed <> wrote:

    > > <snip>
    > > > > > Wow. You've shown you can buy crap to make crap.

    >
    > > > > > Rule #1 about tools: if you really need it, then buy it.

    >
    > > > > > Rule #2: don't buy crap.

    >
    > > > > none of those tools are crap. they have limitations, like all tools,
    > > > > but that doesn't make them crap.

    >
    > > > Please.

    >
    > > > They're crap.

    >
    > > nope.  i've tapped a replacement for something much more complex than
    > > the part in question w/ a similar hf press with no issues.  i build a
    > > replacement for one of these:
    > >http://www.vortexracing.com/index.php?src=directory&view=Products&src...
    > > il&refno=19381&category=Rear%20Sets

    >
    > > a disc with a threaded hole obviously doesn't need anything resembling
    > > the same precision, eh?

    >
    > That one can make crap work on occasion...
    >
    > ...doesn't mean it isn't crap.


    ok alan, specifically, how is it crap? especially in the context that
    it's a drill press that you need to drill ONE hole, that doesn't need
    to be precise, for a small run?

    <snip>
    > > <snip>
    > > > > > > > I know it's a real thing. It's just an inappropriate tool for
    > > > > > > > creating
    > > > > > > > anything other than hack job.

    >
    > > > > > > but you brought up a *angle grinder*?! what do you think is the
    > > > > > > *appropriate* tool one would use for cutting off disks from round
    > > > > > > stock?

    >
    > > > > well, why did you bring up an angle grinder, and what would you use
    > > > > alan?

    >
    > > > LOL

    >
    > > no, really, how about an answer?

    >
    > LOL


    ok, we'll go with the default answer- you have no idea. :p

    > > > > > > > > > If I were trying to make them (and I had the proper tools), I'd
    > > > > > > > > > start
    > > > > > > > > > with round stock, cut it to a little bit larger than finished
    > > > > > > > > > thickness,
    > > > > > > > > > use a lathe to true up the faces and (since its already
    > > > > > > > > > mounted)
    > > > > > > > > > use a
    > > > > > > > > > drill bit in the tailstock to make the centre hole. Then tap.

    >
    > > > > > > > > wow, i guess if you wanted to do a lot more setup and a lotmore
    > > > > > > > > work
    > > > > > > > > than necessary, you could do it a really dumb way like that.. ;D

    >
    > > > > > > > We'll just write this up as something else you don't really
    > > > > > > > understand.

    >
    > > > > > > this is like the discussion we had on box sections, where you really
    > > > > > > thought that a box section needed to be fully enclosed- you thought
    > > > > > > you were right through and through while making a total fool of
    > > > > > > yourself. :p

    >
    > > > > > I never said anything like that.

    >
    > > > > you absolutely did.
    > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3b606b99804d...
    > > > > alan:
    > > > > "And I though a box section was -- you know -- boxed in.
    > > > > Five sides isn't six sides, ed. "

    >
    > > > Nope. Context, Ed. Look it up.

    >
    > > the context clearly showed that you thought a box section needed to be
    > > enclosed (i.e. boxed in).

    >
    > Nope.
    >
    > It needs to be a box *section* in the appropriate directions for the
    > loads it must resist.


    sorry, but that doesn't fly as an excuse, because in CONTEXT, it
    didn't need to be a box where it was "missing" a section. and again,
    in CONTEXT, you said "Five sides isn't six sides," which of course
    meant you thought it needed all six sides, which definitely isn't the
    case, in context. want to make another try at an excuse, or would you
    like to just admit you didn't know this time? :p
     
    ed, Mar 22, 2010
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  3. Tim Murray

    ed Guest

    On Mar 21, 10:40 pm, Alan Baker <> wrote:
    > > > > > I know that to make items in bulk, you go to people who are good at it.

    >
    > > > > well then, something else you apparently don't know- most machine
    > > > > shops aren't really in the business of making parts in bulk.  ;D  most
    > > > > of them generally do everything by hand, so by definition do one offs
    > > > > or limited runs.  :p

    >
    > > > LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOL

    >
    > > sorry alan, but it's true.  have you ever had *any* work done at a
    > > machine shop?  if so, what?  


    you didn't answer the question alan.

    > if not, maybe just admit you don't know
    > > and bow out of the conversation gracefully, eh?  :p

    >
    > Are there machine shops that will do one-off work? Of course.
    >
    > Declaring what "most" do with the kind of certainty you just tried?
    >
    > LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOL


    i'll declare it again, as it's almost by definition what machine shops
    are. it is now ridiculously clear that you haven't ever done any work
    in a machine shop, nor have you ever had any work done by a machine
    shop.
     
    ed, Mar 22, 2010
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  4. Tim Murray

    Mocassin joe Guest

    "Tim Murray" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > OP wrote:
    >> BTW, Asshole. Your "quote" show that the chinks wanted $9.90 ea.
    >>
    >> If you're selling them for six, how were they "cheaper" than a US machine
    >> shop.
    >>
    >> You are a seriously stupid ****. And a real patriot.

    >
    > I had some Chinese quotes for less than CAD Tool of Michigan. I picked an
    > expensive Chinese shop to show you were way wrong about them being
    > cheaper,
    > too.


    Your words in the OP: "And for those who care, I could have had them made
    in China for cheap."

    > And I thought my Chinese shops refused my quotes?


    According to the image you provided you were declined in all but one case.

    Can you post an image of one of the cheapest quotes it would clear things up
    immensely.
     
    Mocassin joe, Mar 22, 2010
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  5. Tim Murray

    Mocassin joe Guest

    "ed" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    On Mar 21, 10:40 pm, Alan Baker <> wrote:
    > > > > > I know that to make items in bulk, you go to people who are good
    > > > > > at it.

    >
    > > > > well then, something else you apparently don't know- most machine
    > > > > shops aren't really in the business of making parts in bulk. ;D most
    > > > > of them generally do everything by hand, so by definition do one
    > > > > offs
    > > > > or limited runs. :p

    >
    > > > LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOL

    >
    > > sorry alan, but it's true. have you ever had *any* work done at a
    > > machine shop? if so, what?


    you didn't answer the question alan.

    > if not, maybe just admit you don't know
    > > and bow out of the conversation gracefully, eh? :p

    >
    > Are there machine shops that will do one-off work? Of course.
    >
    > Declaring what "most" do with the kind of certainty you just tried?
    >
    > LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOL


    i'll declare it again, as it's almost by definition what machine shops
    are. it is now ridiculously clear that you haven't ever done any work
    in a machine shop, nor have you ever had any work done by a machine
    shop.

    You are correct in that most machine shops do only one offs or limited runs
    of two dozen or so . The large runs would be given to specialized
    operations that only handle long runs.

    A job like this disk with threaded hole would be produced from bar stock
    (12L14 leadloy) done on a large multi spindle for max production. As the
    hole was drilled and tapped the OD and front face would be turned and a
    cutoff tool would part the back face simultaneously. The machine time on the
    part would be the time of the longest operation. In this case the cutoff.

    You are also correct that someone with a small amount of mechanical skill
    and a used $100 drill press could do it by hand. There are people in Long
    Island, NY who specialize in supplying discs of any size cheap.
     
    Mocassin joe, Mar 22, 2010
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  6. Tim Murray

    Tim Murray Guest

    Mocassin joe wrote:
    > Your words in the OP: "And for those who care, I could have had them made
    > in China for cheap."
    >
    >> And I thought my Chinese shops refused my quotes?

    >
    > According to the image you provided you were declined in all but one case.


    No, I declined them. I'm sorry you cannot read. If you are really that stupid
    .... for real ... sign up with mfg.com and put out an RFQ for something. But I
    know, as well as the rest of the readers here, that you are just spewing your
    usual bile because you can't ever be wrong.

    > Can you post an image of one of the cheapest quotes it would clear things
    > up immensely.


    Why bother, zara? You are such scum you will say I modified the screen shot.
     
    Tim Murray, Mar 22, 2010
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  7. Tim Murray

    Mocassin joe Guest

    "Tim Murray" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Mocassin joe wrote:
    >> Your words in the OP: "And for those who care, I could have had them
    >> made
    >> in China for cheap."
    >>
    >>> And I thought my Chinese shops refused my quotes?

    >>
    >> According to the image you provided you were declined in all but one
    >> case.

    >
    > No, I declined them. I'm sorry you cannot read. If you are really that
    > stupid
    > ... for real ... sign up with mfg.com and put out an RFQ for something.


    You don't have to spout off and get insulting to cover your ignorance and
    lies.

    >But I
    > know, as well as the rest of the readers here, that you are just spewing
    > your
    > usual bile because you can't ever be wrong.
    >
    >> Can you post an image of one of the cheapest quotes it would clear things
    >> up immensely.

    >
    > Why bother, zara? You are such scum you will say I modified the screen
    > shot.
    >


    I am not zara. Your excuse for not posting a cheaper quote leaves what you
    say suspect.
     
    Mocassin joe, Mar 22, 2010
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  8. Tim Murray

    Tim Murray Guest

    Mocassin joe wrote:
    >
    > I am not zara. Your excuse for not posting a cheaper quote leaves what
    > you say suspect.


    Not to any other reader here.
     
    Tim Murray, Mar 22, 2010
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  9. Tim Murray

    Tim Murray Guest

    Re: iSight adapter for tripods with threaded sled

    Bob White wrote:
    > On 3/20/2010 12:00 PM, Tim Murray wrote:
    >> Tim Murray wrote:
    >>> I have had manufactured a threaded steel disk that enables you to mount
    >>> your
    >>> iSight to a threaded tripod sled. You can affix the Apple plastic mount to
    >>> the disk and the disk to the sled; or you can use the disk alone and attach
    >>> the iSight magnetic base.
    >>>
    >>> I have them for sale at eBay item 160404303393, with several photos of
    >>> various configurations. Its brutally simple design affords many
    >>> applications.

    >>
    >>> And for those who care, I could have had them made in China for cheap, but
    >>> used a small Midwest machine shop instead.
    >>>

    >>
    >> darn it! I meant "adapter".
    >>

    >
    > I have a few questions if you wouldn't mind.
    >
    > Were they cut from round stock.
    >
    > Were all surfaces machined outside diameter and both faces.
    >
    > What grade of steel or cast iron.
    >
    > My cost analysis puts the price at $1.73, material 4140 CM steel,all
    > surfaces turned, with a minimum of 50 pieces.


    Frankly I don't know. About the only thing I remember is the machining was
    done CNC, whatever that is. The qualifications were minimal: steel so that a
    magnet would attract; plated to avoid rust. That's it.
     
    Tim Murray, Mar 22, 2010
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  10. Tim Murray

    Mocassin joe Guest

    "Tim Murray" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Mocassin joe wrote:
    >>
    >> I am not zara. Your excuse for not posting a cheaper quote leaves what
    >> you say suspect.

    >
    > Not to any other reader here.


    That is not true. Why use deception to attempt to prove right what is
    wrong.
     
    Mocassin joe, Mar 22, 2010
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  11. Tim Murray

    Tim Murray Guest

    Mocassin joe wrote:
    >
    > "Tim Murray" <> wrote:
    >> Mocassin joe wrote:
    >>>
    >>> I am not zara. Your excuse for not posting a cheaper quote leaves what
    >>> you say suspect.

    >>
    >> Not to any other reader here.

    >
    > That is not true. Why use deception to attempt to prove right what
    > is wrong.
    >


    Then find one.
     
    Tim Murray, Mar 26, 2010
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