Mac history books

Discussion in 'UK Macs' started by Jim, Oct 1, 2003.

  1. Jim

    Jim Guest

    In article <1g25q1t.1iudiwzeaewxxN%>, Bella Jones wrote:
    > I was wondering about the best book to read on the history of Apple. I
    > found this nice trainspottery little site:
    > http://www.landsnail.com/apple/index.html
    > which has a whole list of them.
    >
    > I just wondered if anyone had read any of the more recent histories, and
    > which ones you recommend.
    >
    > I also just found 'A Brief History Of The Future - The Origins Of The
    > Internet' by John Naughton, in a 2nd hand shop. Looks like a tasty
    > read...
    >


    I can recommend 'Infinite Loop'

    Jim
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    Jim, Oct 1, 2003
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  2. Jim

    Bella Jones Guest

    I was wondering about the best book to read on the history of Apple. I
    found this nice trainspottery little site:
    http://www.landsnail.com/apple/index.html
    which has a whole list of them.

    I just wondered if anyone had read any of the more recent histories, and
    which ones you recommend.

    I also just found 'A Brief History Of The Future - The Origins Of The
    Internet' by John Naughton, in a 2nd hand shop. Looks like a tasty
    read...

    Thanks

    Bella
     
    Bella Jones, Oct 1, 2003
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  3. Jim

    Dan Lane Guest

    Bella Jones wrote:
    > I was wondering about the best book to read on the history of Apple. I
    > found this nice trainspottery little site:
    > http://www.landsnail.com/apple/index.html
    > which has a whole list of them.
    >
    > I just wondered if anyone had read any of the more recent histories, and
    > which ones you recommend.
    >
    > I also just found 'A Brief History Of The Future - The Origins Of The
    > Internet' by John Naughton, in a 2nd hand shop. Looks like a tasty
    > read...


    I know its not in the same league as a Proper Real History Book, but I
    found Pirates of Silicon Valley an amusing little film :)

    http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0168122/

    It isn't a complete history, or even THAT accurate, but it kept me
    amused for a while.

    --
    Dan
     
    Dan Lane, Oct 1, 2003
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  4. Jim

    Phil Turton Guest

    In article <1g25q1t.1iudiwzeaewxxN%>,
    (Bella Jones) wrote:

    > I was wondering about the best book to read on the history of Apple. I
    > found this nice trainspottery little site:
    > http://www.landsnail.com/apple/index.html
    > which has a whole list of them.
    >
    > I just wondered if anyone had read any of the more recent histories, and
    > which ones you recommend.


    I've read Jim Carlton's book and Michael Malone's. It was quite a while
    ago, but, IIRC, I was more impressed with the latter. The Carlton book was
    good on the great lost projects - Star Trek etc. - and the Malone book is
    very good on the early days. Both leave the company the return of the
    prodigal son and fail to predict the subsequent renaissance.

    Robert Cringely's book is an entertaining read for a general history of
    the personal computer and has some good pit on Apple. Although highly
    idiosyncratic, by no means accurate and in large part ripped off from the
    earlier Fire In The Valley, it remains perhaps the most enjoyable general
    history of how we got there from here. Or would be if it had been updated
    since the early '90s.

    Phil
     
    Phil Turton, Oct 1, 2003
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  5. Jim

    Jim Guest

    In article <bletiv$boaqn$-berlin.de>, Patrick Navin wrote:
    > Stephen Levy's "Insanely Great" is worth reading. Nice prose and not too
    > heavy handed. Ideal holiday read when you bore of the
    > Grisham/King/Archer rubbish!
    >

    I'll second that, with the caveat that 'IG' suffers slightly from
    'Rose Tinted Spectacles'. Mind you, 'Infinite Loop' suffers from
    the opposite. Read both :)

    Jim
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    laws of right and wrong break down; beyond those metaphysical
    event horizons there exist ... special circumstances" - Use Of Weapons
     
    Jim, Oct 1, 2003
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  6. Bella Jones wrote:
    > I was wondering about the best book to read on the history of Apple. I
    > found this nice trainspottery little site:
    > http://www.landsnail.com/apple/index.html
    > which has a whole list of them.
    >
    > I just wondered if anyone had read any of the more recent histories, and
    > which ones you recommend.
    >
    > I also just found 'A Brief History Of The Future - The Origins Of The
    > Internet' by John Naughton, in a 2nd hand shop. Looks like a tasty
    > read...
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Bella


    Stephen Levy's "Insanely Great" is worth reading. Nice prose and not too
    heavy handed. Ideal holiday read when you bore of the
    Grisham/King/Archer rubbish!

    --
    Patrick

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    Patrick Navin, Oct 1, 2003
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  7. Jim

    Tim Gowen Guest

    In <> Jim wrote:
    > In article <bletiv$boaqn$-berlin.de>, Patrick
    > Navin wrote:
    >> Stephen Levy's "Insanely Great" is worth reading. Nice prose and not
    >> too heavy handed. Ideal holiday read when you bore of the Grisham/
    >> King/Archer rubbish!

    > I'll second that, with the caveat that 'IG' suffers slightly from
    > 'Rose Tinted Spectacles'. Mind you, 'Infinite Loop' suffers from
    > the opposite.


    And how! There's that quote about how so many men associated with Apple
    were eventually reduced to tears. It's a deeply sad but very good book.


    Tim

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    Tim Gowen
     
    Tim Gowen, Oct 1, 2003
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  8. Jim

    Bella Jones Guest

    Jim <> wrote:

    > In article <bletiv$boaqn$-berlin.de>, Patrick Navin wrote:
    > > Stephen Levy's "Insanely Great" is worth reading. Nice prose and not too
    > > heavy handed. Ideal holiday read when you bore of the
    > > Grisham/King/Archer rubbish!
    > >

    > I'll second that, with the caveat that 'IG' suffers slightly from
    > 'Rose Tinted Spectacles'. Mind you, 'Infinite Loop' suffers from
    > the opposite. Read both :)


    Thanks everyone for the input. I should check out the movie too, even
    though they 'cut out some great moments in cpu history'... ;-)

    It said somewhere that the Cringely book had a new edition in 1996, but
    that's still a while ago.

    Maybe the time is ripe for another Mac history, with lots of nice iMac
    pictures....
     
    Bella Jones, Oct 1, 2003
    #8
  9. Jim

    Tim Hodgson Guest

    Bella Jones <> wrote:

    > I was wondering about the best book to read on the history of Apple. I
    > found this nice trainspottery little site:
    > http://www.landsnail.com/apple/index.html
    > which has a whole list of them.
    >
    > I just wondered if anyone had read any of the more recent histories, and
    > which ones you recommend.


    Not a history, and not that recent, but Douglas Coupland's novel
    'Microserfs' is a good read in its own right, and has a surprising
    number of Apple references. He obviously knows, or knew, insiders in
    both camps.
    --
    TimH
    pull tooth to reply
     
    Tim Hodgson, Oct 2, 2003
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  10. Jim

    Bella Jones Guest

    Tim Hodgson <> wrote:

    > Bella Jones <> wrote:
    >
    > > I was wondering about the best book to read on the history of Apple. I
    > > found this nice trainspottery little site:
    > > http://www.landsnail.com/apple/index.html
    > > which has a whole list of them.
    > >
    > > I just wondered if anyone had read any of the more recent histories, and
    > > which ones you recommend.

    >
    > Not a history, and not that recent, but Douglas Coupland's novel
    > 'Microserfs' is a good read in its own right, and has a surprising
    > number of Apple references. He obviously knows, or knew, insiders in
    > both camps.


    That's a lovely book. I read it ages ago though - might read it again
    actually.
     
    Bella Jones, Oct 2, 2003
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  11. Jim

    Stuart Bell Guest

    Bella Jones <> wrote:

    > Maybe the time is ripe for another Mac history, with lots of nice iMac
    > pictures....


    INHO Insanely Great and Infinite Loop are the ones to go for.

    Only disasters make good history, so there won't be much recent history
    of Apple published, for a while, we hope!

    Stuart

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    Stuart Bell, Oct 2, 2003
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  12. Jim

    Bella Jones Guest

    Stuart Bell <> wrote:

    > Bella Jones <> wrote:
    >
    > > Maybe the time is ripe for another Mac history, with lots of nice iMac
    > > pictures....

    >
    > INHO Insanely Great and Infinite Loop are the ones to go for.
    >
    > Only disasters make good history, so there won't be much recent history
    > of Apple published, for a while, we hope!


    Good point - it would all be coffee table design books, I guess...
     
    Bella Jones, Oct 2, 2003
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  13. Jim

    Stuart Bell Guest

    Bella Jones <> wrote:

    > Good point - it would all be coffee table design books, I guess...


    Talking of which, Apple Design is _lovely_.
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    Stuart Bell, Oct 2, 2003
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  14. Jim

    PeterD Guest

    Stuart Bell <> wrote:

    > Bella Jones <> wrote:
    >
    > > Good point - it would all be coffee table design books, I guess...

    >
    > Talking of which, Apple Design is _lovely_.


    My mother-in-law has just bought an iBook (thanks to all for the input)
    and just by the way forgot my advice to get more RAM, so the poor thing
    is struggling along with 128Mb (why DO Apple so badly underspec the
    RAM?).

    Anyway I was terribly impressed with the packaging, and design of
    various bits and pieces. Little things like the tiny clip on the power
    cord, and the ability to plug the transformer directly into the wall,
    and the little plastic cover on the plug that goes into the computer.
    All reassuringly well designed. Somebody put a lot of thought into those
    little extra touches.

    --
    Pd
     
    PeterD, Oct 2, 2003
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  15. Jim

    Chris Ridd Guest

    On 2/10/03 9:10 pm, in article
    1g27zzq.qx8kow1oy1sjpN%, "PeterD"
    <> wrote:

    > Stuart Bell <> wrote:
    >
    >> Bella Jones <> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Good point - it would all be coffee table design books, I guess...

    >>
    >> Talking of which, Apple Design is _lovely_.

    >
    > My mother-in-law has just bought an iBook (thanks to all for the input)
    > and just by the way forgot my advice to get more RAM, so the poor thing
    > is struggling along with 128Mb (why DO Apple so badly underspec the
    > RAM?).
    >
    > Anyway I was terribly impressed with the packaging, and design of
    > various bits and pieces. Little things like the tiny clip on the power
    > cord, and the ability to plug the transformer directly into the wall,
    > and the little plastic cover on the plug that goes into the computer.
    > All reassuringly well designed. Somebody put a lot of thought into those
    > little extra touches.


    It was presumably a different person to the one that thoughtfully decided to
    not put enough memory in the machine :-(

    Cheers,

    Chris
     
    Chris Ridd, Oct 2, 2003
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  16. Jim

    Stuart Bell Guest

    PeterD <> wrote:

    > My mother-in-law has just bought an iBook (thanks to all for the input)
    > and just by the way forgot my advice to get more RAM, so the poor thing
    > is struggling along with 128Mb (why DO Apple so badly underspec the
    > RAM?).


    If a total of 256Mb will suffice, a terribly nice chap is selling a
    128Mb SODIMM on eBay at the moment, so I'm told. ;-)

    Stuart
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    Stuart Bell, Oct 3, 2003
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