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Michelle Steiner
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      19th June 2010
How many electromagnetic spectrum sensors does the iPhone 4 have?

I count six or seven; there's one I'm not sure about.

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Wes Groleau
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      19th June 2010
On 06-18-2010 22:38, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> How many electromagnetic spectrum sensors does the iPhone 4 have?


Hmmm.

two cameras
___ GPS antennae
___ WiFi antennae
___ cellular system antennae
two light sensors for the "gyro" if it works by the
fiber optic method

If the are all “one,” that's seven. Unless they
share an antenna and you don’t count anything
downstream of the split.

Now, is it “electromagnetic” if it’s only
magnetic (compass) or only electro (numerous
inputs)?

What’s the one you’re not sure of?

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Michelle Steiner
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      19th June 2010
In article <hvifcp$cp8$(E-Mail Removed)>,
Wes Groleau <Groleau+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> What’s the one you’re not sure of?


My count is
2 cameras
GPS
WiFi
Cellular
Bluetooth

What I'm not sure of is the Nike+ receiver; I don't know whether it is a
separate sensor or Bluetooth. I know that it's not cellular or GPS, and I
doubt that it is WiFi.

It didn't occur to me that the gyroscope could be an electromagnetic
spectrum sensor.

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Me, ...again!
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      19th June 2010


On Sat, 19 Jun 2010, Wes Groleau wrote:

> On 06-18-2010 22:38, Michelle Steiner wrote:
>> How many electromagnetic spectrum sensors does the iPhone 4 have?

>
> Hmmm.
>
> two cameras


Being that these are _light_ based, I'd probably not recommend counting
them.

> ___ GPS antennae
> ___ WiFi antennae
> ___ cellular system antennae


So called "software defined" radio means that one package of hardware
electronics is "managed" all by software, including the capacity to carry
out N processes simultaneously.

> two light sensors for the "gyro" if it works by the
> fiber optic method


If the are inertia-based, then maybe not. Do you know how they work?
Surely not with spinning motors.

> If the are all “one,” that's seven. Unless they
> share an antenna and you don’t count anything
> downstream of the split.


You also need to consider the transmitter side, for more processes, also
possibly under "software defined radio" control.

> Now, is it “electromagnetic” if it’s only
> magnetic (compass)


Earth's nagnetic fields could be swamped by stray from electrical
machinery.

or only electro (numerous
> inputs)?


Electro-what?

> What’s the one you’re not sure of?


Don't forget, the iPhone (as well as cellphones) also generates RF
interference. I can pick it up on telephones, audio equipment, monitor
screens, TV sets, and a shortwave receiver tuned almost anywhere (from
time to time it generates what I think is a short burst of pulses probably
to confirm connections to cell towers, etc [my netbook also, at periodic
intervals, exchanges a small number of bytes of data with the network,
even if nothing is happening on the keyboard or no html-xml downloading is
taking place {it shows up as packets sent/received on the rate meter}]).

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Michelle Steiner
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      19th June 2010
In article <(E-Mail Removed) >,
"Me, ...again!" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> >> How many electromagnetic spectrum sensors does the iPhone 4 have?

> >
> > Hmmm.
> >
> > two cameras

>
> Being that these are _light_ based, I'd probably not recommend counting
> them.


Light is part of the electromagnetic spectrum. I worded the question
carefully so that the cameras would be included.

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      19th June 2010
In article <(E-Mail Removed) >, Me,
....again! <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> >> How many electromagnetic spectrum sensors does the iPhone 4 have?

> >
> > Hmmm.
> > two cameras

>
> Being that these are _light_ based, I'd probably not recommend counting
> them.


light is electromagnetic radiation.

> > ___ GPS antennae
> > ___ WiFi antennae
> > ___ cellular system antennae

>
> So called "software defined" radio means that one package of hardware
> electronics is "managed" all by software, including the capacity to carry
> out N processes simultaneously.


except that they're separate and where in the world did you come up
with software defined radio?

> > two light sensors for the "gyro" if it works by the
> > fiber optic method

>
> If the are inertia-based, then maybe not. Do you know how they work?
> Surely not with spinning motors.


read another book.

> > If the are all one, that's seven. Unless they
> > share an antenna and you dont count anything
> > downstream of the split.

>
> You also need to consider the transmitter side, for more processes, also
> possibly under "software defined radio" control.


a transmitter is not a 'sensor.'

> > Now, is it electromagnetic if its only
> > magnetic (compass)

>
> Earth's nagnetic fields could be swamped by stray from electrical
> machinery.


absolutely. we wouldn't want to swamp the earth's magnetic fields with
too many devices. just think of the damage that could cause.

> or only electro (numerous
> > inputs)?

>
> Electro-what?


yes.

> > Whats the one youre not sure of?

>
> Don't forget, the iPhone (as well as cellphones) also generates RF
> interference.


not all cellphones do.

> I can pick it up on telephones, audio equipment, monitor
> screens, TV sets, and a shortwave receiver tuned almost anywhere (from
> time to time it generates what I think is a short burst of pulses probably
> to confirm connections to cell towers, etc [my netbook also, at periodic
> intervals, exchanges a small number of bytes of data with the network,
> even if nothing is happening on the keyboard or no html-xml downloading is
> taking place {it shows up as packets sent/received on the rate meter}]).


not if you turn off networking it doesn't.
 
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      19th June 2010
In article
<michelle-(E-Mail Removed)>,
Michelle Steiner <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> What I'm not sure of is the Nike+ receiver; I don't know whether it is a
> separate sensor or Bluetooth. I know that it's not cellular or GPS, and I
> doubt that it is WiFi.


it's bluetooth.
 
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Wes Groleau
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      19th June 2010
>>> How many electromagnetic spectrum sensors does the iPhone 4 have?
>>
>> two cameras

>
> Being that these are _light_ based, I'd probably not recommend counting
> them.


No fair--she said it was a GEEKY question, and she specifically said
”electromagnetic spectrum”

>> ___ GPS antennae
>> ___ WiFi antennae
>> ___ cellular system antennae

>
>> two light sensors for the "gyro" if it works by the
>> fiber optic method

>
> If the are inertia-based, then maybe not. Do you know how they work?
> Surely not with spinning motors.


No and no. In a previous thread, I posted a link on the fiber optic
method, which may not be the only non-inertial method.

> You also need to consider the transmitter side, for more processes, also
> possibly under "software defined radio" control.


Michelle also specifically said “sensors”

>> Now, is it “electromagnetic” if it’s only
>> magnetic (compass)

>
> Earth's nagnetic fields could be swamped by stray from electrical
> machinery.


But that's not what the sensor was intended to sense.

> Don't forget, the iPhone (as well as cellphones) also generates RF
> interference. I can pick it up on telephones, audio equipment, monitor


Yes, when I'm on a landline at work, a little burst of buzzing tells
me my phone is going to ring within two seconds. Maybe I should
pretend to be psychic, …


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      19th June 2010
In article <hvipfp$lo6$(E-Mail Removed)>, Wes Groleau
<Groleau+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Yes, when I'm on a landline at work, a little burst of buzzing tells
> me my phone is going to ring within two seconds. Maybe I should
> pretend to be psychic,


get a phone that uses cdma and that won't happen.
 
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Michelle Steiner
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      19th June 2010
In article <190620101201536247%(E-Mail Removed)>,
nospam <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> > Yes, when I'm on a landline at work, a little burst of buzzing tells
> > me my phone is going to ring within two seconds. Maybe I should
> > pretend to be psychic,

>
> get a phone that uses cdma and that won't happen.


A landline CDMA phone, what a concept!

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