Status 10.6.4

I hear Mac OS 10.6.4 is installed on new Macs, but I don't see it in
software update (I have 10.6.3).
What's up?

Jan E.

In article <4c570595$0$4491$(E-Mail Removed) >,
Jan E. Schotsman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I hear Mac OS 10.6.4 is installed on new Macs, but I don't see it in
> software update (I have 10.6.3).
> What's up?
>
> Jan E.

I don't know why you're not seeing 10.6.4. I've had it on my machine
via software update for a bit now.

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Lloyd

In article <4c570595$0$4491$(E-Mail Removed) >, Jan E.
Schotsman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I hear Mac OS 10.6.4 is installed on new Macs, but I don't see it in
> software update (I have 10.6.3).
> What's up?

<http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1049>

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Jim Gibson

Lloyd Parsons <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> In article <4c570595$0$4491$(E-Mail Removed) >,
> Jan E. Schotsman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > I hear Mac OS 10.6.4 is installed on new Macs, but I don't see it in
> > software update (I have 10.6.3).
>
> I don't know why you're not seeing 10.6.4. I've had it on my machine
> via software update for a bit now.

I've been seeing 10.6.4 in software update for some time, but I had
delayed installing it because of a report somewhere (I don't have a
citation handy) about it making graphics performance significantly worse
in some cases. I'm not at all sure whether the report was accurate, but
I figured it wouldn't hurt for me to wait a while just in case.

Only I "accidentally" installed it today. I decided to update iTunes, so
went into iTunes, selected check for updates, and told it to go ahead.
Having done it from within iTunes, I didn't bother to check carefully
what it was updating, as I figured that would imply just iTunes. Not
until it asked me whether it could reboot now, making me wonder why an
iTunes update would need a reboot, did I realize my mistake. (I might
suggest that there's a user interface flaw here in having an iTunes menu
item do a system-level check for updates that have nothing to do with
iTunes, but I realize that in any case I'm at least partly to blame; I
could have checked.)

Oh well. Nothing obviously wrong yet. Guess I'll just stay here.
(There's always Time Machine if I get desparate to revert, but I don't
see anything so far that seems to merit that.)

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email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgment.
domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain

In article <1jmm547.1kngnbd1gs808wN%(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed)ure (Richard Maine) wrote:

> (I might suggest that there's a user interface flaw here in having an
> iTunes menu item do a system-level check for updates that have nothing
> to do with iTunes, but I realize that in any case I'm at least partly to
> blame; I could have checked.)

iTunes checks to see whether there's an iTunes update available. If there
is, and you say you want to update, it hands things over to the Software
Update program, which checks for all updates.

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Michelle Steiner <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> In article <1jmm547.1kngnbd1gs808wN%(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed)ure (Richard Maine) wrote:
>
> > (I might suggest that there's a user interface flaw here in having an
> > iTunes menu item do a system-level check for updates that have nothing
> > to do with iTunes, but I realize that in any case I'm at least partly to
> > blame; I could have checked.)
>
> iTunes checks to see whether there's an iTunes update available. If there
> is, and you say you want to update, it hands things over to the Software
> Update program, which checks for all updates.

I don't think that the iTunes 9.2.1 update bumped 10.6.3 to 10.6.4.
That would be rather duplicitous on Apple's part. Ate you sure. I did
find it rather curious that such a minor update demanded a reboot upon
instillation. As I recall, it wasn't optional.
--
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becomes a revolutionary act.
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In article <1jmnmvj.e4lvt1i29zq2N%pf@porkain'tkosher.oink>,
pf@porkain'tkosher.oink (Paul Fuchs) wrote:

> > > (I might suggest that there's a user interface flaw here in having
> > > an iTunes menu item do a system-level check for updates that have
> > > nothing to do with iTunes, but I realize that in any case I'm at
> > > least partly to blame; I could have checked.)
> >
> > iTunes checks to see whether there's an iTunes update available. If
> > there is, and you say you want to update, it hands things over to the
> > Software Update program, which checks for all updates.
>
> I don't think that the iTunes 9.2.1 update bumped 10.6.3 to 10.6.4. That
> would be rather duplicitous on Apple's part. Ate you sure. I did find
> it rather curious that such a minor update demanded a reboot upon
> instillation. As I recall, it wasn't optional.

After iTunes hands things over to Software Update, the latter checks for
all available updates. You then check or uncheck what updates you want to
install. The default is, I believe, that all are checked. So if you don't
uncheck the OS update, it will be installed when you click the Install
button.

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Paul Fuchs <pf@porkain'tkosher.oink> wrote:

> Michelle Steiner <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > In article <1jmm547.1kngnbd1gs808wN%(E-Mail Removed)>,
> > (E-Mail Removed)ure (Richard Maine) wrote:
> >
> > > (I might suggest that there's a user interface flaw here in having an
> > > iTunes menu item do a system-level check for updates that have nothing
> > > to do with iTunes, but I realize that in any case I'm at least partly to
> > > blame; I could have checked.)
> >
> > iTunes checks to see whether there's an iTunes update available. If there
> > is, and you say you want to update, it hands things over to the Software
> > Update program, which checks for all updates.
>
> I don't think that the iTunes 9.2.1 update bumped 10.6.3 to 10.6.4.
> That would be rather duplicitous on Apple's part. Ate you sure. I did
> find it rather curious that such a minor update demanded a reboot upon
> instillation. As I recall, it wasn't optional.

Yes, I'm sure. But it wasn't the iTunes update itself. It was clearly,
as Michelle describes, that iTunes handed things over to software
update. I understand what happened, I just think it a flaw in the user
interface that when you ask iTunes to check for updates and then say,
"yes, do it", to what results, you end up updating the whole system.

No, I don't think it duplicituous. People are far too quick to jump on
accusations of duplicity. Recall the addage "Never ascribe to malice
that which can be explained by incompetence." I'd say that
"incompetence" greatly overstates the case here, but it is at least in
the right direction in the sense of being a flaw. I just think it a user
interface flaw.

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email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgment.
domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain

Richard Maine wrote:
> Paul Fuchs<pf@porkain'tkosher.oink> wrote:
>
>> Michelle Steiner<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> In article<1jmm547.1kngnbd1gs808wN%(E-Mail Removed) re>,
>>> (E-Mail Removed)ure (Richard Maine) wrote:
>>>
>>>> (I might suggest that there's a user interface flaw here in having an
>>>> iTunes menu item do a system-level check for updates that have nothing
>>>> to do with iTunes, but I realize that in any case I'm at least partly to
>>>> blame; I could have checked.)
>>>
>>> iTunes checks to see whether there's an iTunes update available. If there
>>> is, and you say you want to update, it hands things over to the Software
>>> Update program, which checks for all updates.
>>
>> I don't think that the iTunes 9.2.1 update bumped 10.6.3 to 10.6.4.
>> That would be rather duplicitous on Apple's part. Ate you sure. I did
>> find it rather curious that such a minor update demanded a reboot upon
>> instillation. As I recall, it wasn't optional.
>
> Yes, I'm sure. But it wasn't the iTunes update itself. It was clearly,
> as Michelle describes, that iTunes handed things over to software
> update. I understand what happened, I just think it a flaw in the user
> interface that when you ask iTunes to check for updates and then say,
> "yes, do it", to what results, you end up updating the whole system.
>
> No, I don't think it duplicituous. People are far too quick to jump on
> accusations of duplicity. Recall the addage "Never ascribe to malice
> that which can be explained by incompetence." I'd say that
> "incompetence" greatly overstates the case here, but it is at least in
> the right direction in the sense of being a flaw. I just think it a user
> interface flaw.
>
I'm still using a PowerPC and X.4.11 and every time Safari, or iTunes is
updated requires a Restart.

--
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In article <i3aek4$eln$(E-Mail Removed)>,
Phillip Jones <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Richard Maine wrote:
> > Paul Fuchs<pf@porkain'tkosher.oink> wrote:
> >
> >> Michelle Steiner<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In article<1jmm547.1kngnbd1gs808wN%(E-Mail Removed) re>,
> >>> (E-Mail Removed)ure (Richard Maine) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> (I might suggest that there's a user interface flaw here in having an
> >>>> iTunes menu item do a system-level check for updates that have nothing
> >>>> to do with iTunes, but I realize that in any case I'm at least partly to
> >>>> blame; I could have checked.)
> >>>
> >>> iTunes checks to see whether there's an iTunes update available. If there
> >>> is, and you say you want to update, it hands things over to the Software
> >>> Update program, which checks for all updates.
> >>
> >> I don't think that the iTunes 9.2.1 update bumped 10.6.3 to 10.6.4.
> >> That would be rather duplicitous on Apple's part. Ate you sure. I did
> >> find it rather curious that such a minor update demanded a reboot upon
> >> instillation. As I recall, it wasn't optional.
> >
> > Yes, I'm sure. But it wasn't the iTunes update itself. It was clearly,
> > as Michelle describes, that iTunes handed things over to software
> > update. I understand what happened, I just think it a flaw in the user
> > interface that when you ask iTunes to check for updates and then say,
> > "yes, do it", to what results, you end up updating the whole system.
> >
> > No, I don't think it duplicituous. People are far too quick to jump on
> > accusations of duplicity. Recall the addage "Never ascribe to malice
> > that which can be explained by incompetence." I'd say that
> > "incompetence" greatly overstates the case here, but it is at least in
> > the right direction in the sense of being a flaw. I just think it a user
> > interface flaw.
> >
> I'm still using a PowerPC and X.4.11 and every time Safari, or iTunes is
> updated requires a Restart.

Isn't that due to changes in the WebKit on your System? I know that
Safari requires a Restart for that reason, but I'm not so certain about
iTunes.
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